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    Apparently, you can run Windows 10 in a Linux VM on some Chromebooks now

    Kevin TofelBy Kevin TofelAugust 3, 2020Updated:May 6, 202527 Comments3 Mins Read
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    Over the past few weeks, we’ve heard Google details plans and a partnership with Parallels to bring Windows 10 support to Chromebooks, at least in the enterprise space. So I was a little surprised to see this tweet from Mace Moneta over the weekend, showing that he’s running Windows 10 inside a VM within the Linux container of his Asus Chromebook Flip C436:

    https://twitter.com/MaceMoneta/status/1289370308084813826?s=20

    Well that’s… interesting.

    I knew that the Chromium team was working on nested KVM support for untrusted virtual machines but I didn’t know how far along it was.

    Of course, I tried to get this working on my older Acer Chromebook Spin 13, mainly because with 16 GB of memory, it’s the perfect candidate for testing Windows 10 in this scenario. I first switched to the Chrome OS 85 Beta Channel because that’s where I’ve seen the most recent supporting code changes for this support.

    I mostly came up empty although installing virt-manager and dependencies worked out just fine. And I was able to get the Virtual Machine Manager running within Linux on my Chromebook.

    The first step in creating a new VM is where I hit my first snag though. KVM wasn’t enabled on my Chromebook, as indicated in step 1 of the process.

    I decided to continue anyway, thinking even a slower experience of Windows 10 in a VM is better than none at all. Unfortunately, I couldn’t get my Windows 10 .iso file to ever be read, after various configuration changes and the additional of necessary virtual hardware.

    I suspect the key issue on my Chromebook is that KVM is disabled by default, as it has been on every Chromebook, per this Chromium site. Running the kvm-ok command in Linux on my Spin 13 returns this message:

    INFO: Your CPU does not support KVM extensions

    KVM acceleration can NOT be used

    This has to do with the configuration of kernel use and although there are steps on the above site indicating how to re-enable KVM support, it’s not something that most Chromebook owners will be able to do. And it requires a CPU that supports Intel’s VMX extensions.

    Having said that, it appears in code commits that nested KVM and untrusted — read: Non-Google built — VMs will be supported in the future. Which Chromebooks will get the feature is the next question. And it based on the limited information I’ve seen, it may only be newer devices based on chipset and kernel version requirements.

    Regardless, I’ll keep tinkering with this on my Chromebook Spin 13 and some newer Chromebooks that may have a more recent Linux kernel. If I find out more, I’ll be sure to share. And if you’ve been able to get Windows 10 inside a Linux VM on your Chromebook, let us all know what you’re using and how it’s going!

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    After spending 15 years in IT at Fortune 100 companies, Kevin turned a hobby into a career and began covering mobile technology in 2003. He writes daily on the industry and has co-hosted the weekly MobileTechRoundup podcast since 2006. His writing has appeared in print (The New York Times, PC Magazine and PC World) and he has been featured on NBC News in Philadelphia.

    27 Comments

    1. Martin Lendvay on August 3, 2020 2:29 pm

      AFAIK nested KVM is supported from Linux Kernel 4.14 and your Acer Spin 13 has 4.4 one I think, so it’s the reason why it doesn’t work for you.

    2. Mace Moneta on August 3, 2020 2:58 pm

      It may only be the Project Athena Chromebooks that have nested KVM enabled. An easy way to check if nested KVM is enabled on your machine is to issue this command in Crostini terminal:

      cat /sys/module/kvm_intel/parameters/nested
      Y

      If you get the ‘Y’ response, you’re good to go. To install kvm:

      sudo apt install qemu-kvm
      sudo usermod -aG kvm $USER

      Shutdown the Linux VM (two-finger tap the Terminal icon), and after a few seconds, open Terminal again to start it up again.

      Since Chromebooks use BTRFS, disable COW (copy on write) for the Windows image file:
      chattr -C win10.img

      Then you can boot up Window with:

      kvm -m 4096 -smp cpus=4 -drive file=win10.img,media=disk,cache=unsafe -usb -device usb-tablet -vga virtio -net nic -net user

      It takes 38 seconds to boot to a usable desktop (all icons visible, network up) on my Chromebook.

      • Kevin C. Tofel on August 3, 2020 4:57 pm

        Thanks, Mace, this is super helpful info! Interestingly, I got the Y response on the nested parameter check using my Acer Chromebook Spin 13. And I did install qemu-kvm.

        But…. trying to boot up from a Windows image file returns a “failed to initialize KVM: No such file or directory.

        So it looks like the functionality is there, or at least partially there, but blocked on my older device.

        I may have to try with a Pixelbook Go which is the newest mid- to high-end Chromebook I have on hand. Cheers!

      • Clark Can't on September 14, 2020 9:21 pm

        Thank you for posting this! Not sure why the author couldn’t be bothered to post any instructions.

    3. James on August 3, 2020 4:24 pm

      Cool

    4. Harry Myhre on August 4, 2020 9:48 am

      I can’t really think of any Windows apps that I would want to run on my Chromebook.

      • Tom on August 4, 2020 10:07 am

        What not even Chrome on Windows just to be ironic. Like how I use Microsoft mouse on my Chromebook. No suppose you have better things to do, lol.

      • Mace Moneta on August 4, 2020 10:56 am

        The only reason I have a Windows VM, is because I occasionally need to configure a Foscam camera. They use a proprietary browser plugin that doesn’t work with Linux. I can configure the devices with commands sent via URLs, but haven’t gotten around to scripting it yet. Other than that, I haven’t needed Windows in 20 years.

    5. Jakob Staerk on August 4, 2020 11:46 am

      I have just tried installing kvm on a Asus C434, and it seams to work with Tails

      Used the following to install kvm and virt-manager (source: https://chromeunboxed.com/insalling-windows-on-chromebook-crostini-linux-kvm-qemu-virtual-machine/)
      sudo apt install qemu-kvm libvirt-clients libvirt-daemon-system bridge-utils virtinst libvirt-daemon virt-manager -y
      (Source: This page)
      sudo usermod -aG kvm $USER

      Had a problem that was solved using this (source: https://blog.wikichoon.com/2016/01/polkit-password-less-access-for-libvirt.html)
      sudo usermod –append –groups libvirt $(whoami)

    6. Ersid on August 4, 2020 12:56 pm

      Its nice to know its there when u need it especially for games that are not on android eco, but its useful for many diff things and people

    7. Chris on August 4, 2020 7:50 pm

      Pixelbook Go here – I get the “Y” when I run this command “cat /sys/module/kvm_intel/parameters/nested
      ”
      I can install the Virtual Machine manager but all I get is an error saying “no active connection to install on” so not sure if I’ve done something wrong!!

      • Chris Mitchell on August 4, 2020 7:59 pm

        Actually managed to sort it – Windows 10 installing on the i7 Pixelbook Go – will need to test it properly tomorrow; I suspect that really this kind of thing is going to need a proper i5/i7 rather than one of the weedier U processors.

        • Paul on January 15, 2021 7:09 am

          Did you get this working in a way that was actually usable? Did you get it to boot into the Windows 10 desktop at all?

          Cheers

      • HG on August 4, 2020 9:40 pm

        @Chris, how did you fix the “No active connection to install on”? I am getting the same, installing on the Galaxy Chromebook. Going to start all over, but if you can give us what you did would help, thanks!

    8. Chris on August 5, 2020 5:10 am

      Run this command:

      sudo usermod –append –groups libvirt `whoami`

      It gives you the needed permissions.

    9. HG on August 5, 2020 10:15 am

      @Chris Thanks! That worked. Will research on having a few more issues on the installation. At times it just gets stuck at installing Windows when it gets to “Getting files for installation” and sometimes when redoing the complete setup again, I get “No bootable deivce”.

    10. JT on August 7, 2020 1:53 am

      Hi – I tried the sudo usermod –append –groups libvirt `whoami` command and I cannot tell if it worked:
      https://imgur.com/a/MJs8Rvl

      Regardless I am still getting “Error: no active connection to install on” :
      https://imgur.com/a/9SsdbQe

      Any ideas? Thanks for the help.

    11. J T on August 7, 2020 10:11 am

      One additional detail on the error:
      https://imgur.com/a/9f64Y09

    12. mrrog on August 10, 2020 6:51 am

      running a hp 360 with a N5000 pentium silver cpu, it’s on 4.14 and i get ‘cat /sys/module/kvm_intel/parameters/nested’ Y

      when running kvm i get:-

      Unable to connect to libvirt qemu:///system.

      authentication unavailable: no polkit agent available to authenticate action ‘org.libvirt.unix.manage’

      Libvirt URI is: qemu:///system

      Traceback (most recent call last):
      File “/usr/share/virt-manager/virtManager/connection.py”, line 1012, in _do_open
      self._backend.open(connectauth.creds_dialog, self)
      File “/usr/share/virt-manager/virtinst/connection.py”, line 138, in open
      open_flags)
      File “/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/libvirt.py”, line 104, in openAuth
      if ret is None:raise libvirtError(‘virConnectOpenAuth() failed’)
      libvirt.libvirtError: authentication unavailable: no polkit agent available to authenticate action ‘org.libvirt.unix.manage’

      any thoughts would be much appreciated, (it’s all double dutch to me) !

      • Jakob Staerk on August 11, 2020 3:20 am

        I solved it with
        sudo usermod –append –groups libvirt $(whoami)

        Se comment above for source

      • Red on August 22, 2020 2:39 pm

        Hey! Try to use Virtualbox. To install it use “sudo apt-get install virtualbox” in Terminal App.

    13. CouchCowBwoi on August 11, 2020 1:42 am

      Really interesting..! Would someone like to do a video/review of the process and how it runs?

      Thanks in advance ?

    14. mrrog on August 11, 2020 1:56 pm

      ok, thanks for that, with a bit of tinkering on that command i got it going, even as far as it loading win10, then it froze up and and told me ‘no bootable device’ !

      my HP 360 only has 4gb of ram and i doubt enough spare storage to run windows either, still, in principle a N5000 pentium silver will do, running 4.14, it’s a gemini lake chip, almost three years old

      gonna tinker some more though !

    15. mrrog on August 13, 2020 10:18 am

      actually got this thing as far as the license screen, then disconnects

      run’s like a dawg of course, probably because i can only allocate circa 2.75gb of ram to it, and on a N5000 pentium silver cpu, nevertheless, i’ve satisfied my need to tinker

    16. SupeChicken666 on August 15, 2020 11:41 pm

      There was a new method to use qemu on chrome os without crostini, and it will be faster.

      https://www.reddit.com/r/chromeos/comments/ia9v2e/how_to_run_any_operating_system_on/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

      • Cesar on August 16, 2020 10:32 am

        The post has been deleted. Does anyone got the procedure saved elsewhere?

    17. Rose on August 27, 2020 6:33 pm

      Can you do a tutorial on how to install the virt machience for debian?

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